Religious provocators

lit. to pick up what has been heard on the way.
fig. groundless information; hearsay

I stay away from Religious discussions but recent events give me a chance to explain a little on what I have learned over the years. Furthermore I learned the above idiom from a friend this morning.

The Hindus believe in one formless God. There are no thousands of Gods as written by Zamri Vinod and Zakir Naik both of whom are Hindu converts.

Here are extracts of a Face Book discussion with one Chinese girl,Sze Hoi Wong on Face Book which is self explanatory.

Luqman Michel This guy (Zamri Vinod) is sick but on the other hand do not believe everything on the net.

Sze Hoi Wong Luqman Michel most Muslims have preconditioned answer of what is right or wrong without listening to the other side’s argument because of brainwashing from young.

My comment now: Is she not brainwashed as well? Continue reading and form your own opinion.

Luqman Michel Sze Hoi Wong correct. However this is true with other religious beliefs as well. Most people have been indoctrinated from young. If one reads about the main religions it is only the Hindus who are not idol worshippers.

Sze Hoi Wong Luqman Michel with thousands of gods, why Hindu is not?

Luqman Michel Excellent question but why did you not ask why other religions also have idols? Let us start with that first. When I was a young child I went with my mother on Christmas Eve to the largest Catholic Church in KL. After the service each year we used to queue up to kiss baby Jesus. Then we would all pray to Mother Mary's statue. When I was a teenager I joined the Chinese Methodist Church in Port Dickson and visited many of the Methodist churches in the country. Every church had the cross next to the altar. We would all bow down as we entered the churches.

Sze Hoi Wong Everyone knows those are just symbols, only ignorant idiots would believe Christians really pray to those crosses and symbols.

 

Luqman Michel How about the ignorant idiots who claim that Hindus worship idols? I am just using the words of your choice. From what I know, the Hindus have only one God who is formless. Do some research on this fact and we may continue on another day. Wish you well.

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Sze Hoi Wong Don’t know what you talking about Krishna is only one of many......
https://www.learnreligions.com/who-is-krishna-1770452

Luqman Michel Sze Hui Wong, We should try and learn about other's beliefs before putting our heads on the chopping block. In Indian philosophy, Hindus pray to specific deities during different time. For example students will worship Saraswathy who is the 'deity' for education. Later, they may probably pray to Letchumy the deity for wealth and fortune. This is explained by saying that a young child will not be able to close his eyes and pray to a formless deity. But, upon maturity he should get rid of all deity/idols/images/symbols and worship a formless God which is now easier than when he was young. Try and close your eyes and imagine nothing for just one minute and you may understand this teaching. There is only one formless God to be prayed ultimately by all Hindus. Hope this helps. I believe that we should only talk about our own religion which we may know a little about and stop pointing a finger at what others believe where we know almost nothing about. Wish you well.

Luqman Michel "Everyone knows those are just symbols," (Sze Hui Wong) For Christians it is symbol but not for others? Does this sound reasonable? I like to quote Ghandi on this "Why do you Christians try and convert us to Christianity? If you can live a Christ like life, the whole of India will want to convert". It is definitely not Christ like to comment on other religions when one has a lot more to learn just about one's own religion.

Sze Hoi Wong Luqman Michel is that why Gandhi got assassinated by his own people?

My comment now: This is exactly how John Ho, George Kunjan, CC Pung, Arabi Wazani , Muthusamy and others avoid direct questions which will solve any misunderstandings.

Luqman Michel Let us not stray from your main points. Why Ghandi was killed is not our discussion. The main point is that there is only one God for the Hindus and that God is formless. A Hindu when is matured prays to one formless God. Have you now been educated?

Sze Hoi Wong Don’t think that’s the common belief among all Hindus. Perhaps some Hindu cult.

Luqman Michel Sze Hoi Wong , now you have become an expert on Hindu cult.

Sze Hoi Wong here is something official. Please listen to the whole clip and then tell me that you have been educated.

 https://youtu.be/3ERBOSTzUkE

Luqman Michel Would you like me to write about our encounter in one of my three blogs so that other ‘religious experts ‘ like you may be better informed?

Sze Hoi Wong Luqman Michel The video message hits the nail on the head. Same reason SzeHoi Wong is here criticising Islam is because Muslims including Zakir Naik been dishing out against other religions like they are the only untouchable religion.

Luqman Michel  I shall write about my encounter with you if you do not apologise for saying that Hindus have many gods. I give you 3 days. I will write about this encounter in my 4th book. You may read my last three books at www.luqmanmichel.com

Sze Hoi Wong Luqman Michel What is there to apologise when 99% of general population think that Hindus have millions of Gods?

My comment now: This is how people like Sze Hoi Wong, George Kunjan and John Ho discuss matters. They avoid questions and bring in new topics for discussion. 

Sze Hoi Wong is the  type of person who creates religious disharmony by provoking others. I had explained clearly the Hindu Philosophy and she still claims that 99 percent of the Hindus believe in more than a thousand Gods. Where did she get that figure of 99% from?How do we educate people like this girl?.